We have looked into it and have again been told by the City that the only way the sidewalk petition, as passed by the City Council, can be retracted is if 100% of those owners that signed it retract their signature. Does anyone else have a different understanding of the state of this petition?
I think it is great that we have had so much communication about the specific concerns that our neighbors have. Many of them we share. I also hope that we feel more unified by these communications than we are made divided. However, the way it seems to me, there is not really any feasible way to dramatically change what was passed other than design details at this point. I think it’s absolutely worthwhile for us to continue to voice our opinions to the City, unified where we can be, but I also want everyone to have realistic expectations and the information that I have about this project.
Barbara Scott – Thank you for conveying what you have learned so clearly.
Erin Salmon – I have also called the Transporation Planning Manager of the city to find out the real process and specific policies around how much input residents have during the design phase and how we make sure our concerns are heard. I echo another sentiment you voiced in a previous post, Currie. My trust in the political process, as well as the city holding to its word of concern for the environment and for protecting established neighborhoods is shaken from this petition specifically.
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Shannon Bellezza – I agree, Ryan. Currie Mixon, I would say that it is a good indication that you should trust the neighbors that a good deal of the discussion here has focused on alternative sidewalk plans, maybe more so than alternative-to-sidewalk plans. Those who may not have wanted a sidewalk have entertained the possibility of alternative sidewalk plans and have shown that they are open to compromise. I feel that there have been many alternatives suggested (sidewalk and non-sidewalk alternatives) that would be in keeping with the character and aesthetic of the neighborhood.
I did not start this page – my wife did. However, she left and I have become an administrator. I have been wrestling with the fact that this is a “Secret Group”. I think that, while it encourages very open dialogue, it also may encourage unfiltered snipes and the presentation of opinion as fact. That’s not what a neighborhood-focused group forum should be. Therefore, at the end of the day tomorrow, I am going to change the settings of this to open up the group to be a public group.
Now would be a time for everyone to take a look at what they’ve said and decide whether they want those comments to stand in the open.
Erin Salmon – Thank you, Currie, for the update. I know that Sharon also started an Avent West neighborhood FB page that is a closed group. I do not fully understand the designations. Is a closed group better for privacy than a public group? I know a closed group is different from a secret group designation.
Currie Mixon – Yes – Sharon wanted a neighborhood group where the topics of the postings were more neighborhood in character and not almost singularly dedicated to the sidewalk petition issue.
A closed group means anyone can find the group and see who is in it. Only members can see posts.
A secret group means only members can find the group and see posts.I don’t know if a public group means anyone can join and post however, or if you still need to send a request to join and post.
Currie Mixon – Thanks for doing a much better job than I could at explaining that, Ryan. The public group option that I am going to set won’t change the membership setting – that will remain our current invitation/approval approach.
Barbara Scott – Sounds like a good idea to me: Anyone can see the posts. Other people who are contemplating submitting a sidewalk or street improvement petition for a neighborhood could benefit from seeing this discussion. Hindsight is always better than foresight. Airing people’s ideas before a petition ever gets submitted could help to ensure that a vote for or against a petition is well-informed. It’s rare, I think, that an outcome pleases everyone. Acceptance might be increased if people could contribute from the beginning.